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Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 10451 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 31, 2015 to November 5, 2015
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: Flat Tops Wilderness


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any): Joel
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Elk - Availability: Never saw one
Game Condition Comments: I did not see a single elk.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Poor Guide/PH Ability: Poor
Condition of Camp: Fair Condition of Equipment: Fair
Quality of Food: Fair Trophy Care: N/A
Name of Airline: Delta Airline Service: Excellent
Airline Comments: Normal service Atlanta - Denver.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $4800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $600
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $300
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: There were 10 official hunters in the camp. None of us took a single shot at an elk. I never saw an elk and neither did most of the other hunters. Our guides would take us somewhere on horseback in the morning, and then do essentially nothing for the rest of the day until it was time to ride back to camp. No effort was made to help us find elk.
Highlights of Hunt: None
Equipment Recommendations: Usual cold weather gear. Good binoculars.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? no
Why? See my comments


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Andrew Feltenstein
Contact Information: Tel. 202 2138436 - 8960 Huntcliff Trace, Atlanta, GA USA, E-mail: afelten76@gmail.com
Hunting Experience: Many hunts in US, Canada, Africa, Australia
Physical Condition: Good


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? no Notified Personal Guide? no Notified Booking Agent? no
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide? no
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Apart from the problems with the hunt described above, there were more than 30 people in the camp at many times. Among these were children, friends of the outfitter, and a film crew that was shooting a hunting episode for a TV series. They had 2 hunters with them who were treated very differently from the rest of us. That is, they had multiple guides working aggressively to find them elk. At least one of them got her elk on the first day of her hunt. On the outfitter's website it says that no motor vehicles are permitted in the 250 sq. mile area that he hunts. In fact, lots of local people drive their trucks up the trails where we were hunting, set up camps, and hunt. We saw many such semi-road hunters every day. Finally, I have been on many hunts, but never have been on one where not a single hunter (out of 10), ever pulled the trigger.

E-mail from Larry Amos to The Hunting Report, January 20, 2016:

I believe the true issue was that Mr. Andrew Feltenstein was not fit to do a wilderness elk hunt as those we offer. Our website and information sent to our hunters explains our hunts in full detail and exactly how they are conducted.

Mr. Feltenstein chose the 3rd rifle season to hunt. Understandably, the first three days of the hunt, the weather was bad. The temperature was below zero every night, and there were high winds, heavy snow and fog. Mr. Feltenstein did not mention anything about the terrible weather in his complaint, yet we saw he was not prepared for those conditions, which should be expected in such hunts. He did not have proper clothing for cold weather hunts, nor was he fit to handle the elements.

I believe this simply was not the type of hunt for Mr. Andrew was suited for. After talking to him in Camp, he mentioned hunting bear over bait and hunting in Africa and Australia, where you shoot game off the hood of your truck. As we openly state to all those interested in our hunts, that is not the type of hunt we offer. It is much more than just shooting game. Hunting elk in the wilderness with horses is a tough hunt for most people, and for Mr. Feltenstein, it was way out of his element.

Mr. Feltenstein also did not mention that he only hunted three partial days of a six day hunt. Those three days, of which we had terrible weather, he was never ready at departure time and his guide had to wait for him every morning to go hunt. Then, on the third day of the trip, he told us he received an email from his wife and needed to go home because of an emergency. Both the bad weather and the early departure are unfortunate and understandable, yet should be included and considered as the part of his hunt story.

In Mr. Feltenstein's complaint, he states that there were 30 people in camp. That is far from the truth. There were 10 hunters and my crew. He also states that there were children in camp. Those were my grandkids, who came to see their mother who was guiding that week. They were there for two days to spend the weekend close to their mom. Those kids being in camp had no effect on the hunting, nor was it any of Mr. Feltenstein's business.

Also, he states in his complaint that out of 10 hunters, not a single shot was fired at elk, and then a few lines below, he tells how a bull was shot on the first day of the hunt. There were 10 hunters in camp for the 3rd Rifle season. There were 2 bulls killed and 2 bulls missed that week.

As for the road he talks about in his complaint, the Base Camp is located at the end of a Forrest Service Road. Public land hunters do use this road, and it is the very road Mr. Feltenstein came up to get to camp himself. Even our website explains that our camp is accessible by a four wheel drive road. It is clearly stated on the website that we hunt on public land.

It is true Mr. Feltenstein experienced a hunt unlike his previous hunts, where you pay for the animals you shoot in Africa, or shoot a baited bear as you would a fish in a barrel. Buffalo hunts in Australia are almost like shooting a milk cow in the field. When he chose to hunt with us, Mr. Feltenstein did not buy a hunt like his previous hunts. He paid for an opportunity to take an elk in Colorado Wilderness.

The following are the comments of Joel Adema, who was Mr. Andrew Feltenstein's guide.

I guided Mr. Feltenstein for three days. Every morning, he was never ready to leave on time. He was not prepared to hunt in the cold and I had to build a fire for him every morning to keep him warm. When we needed to sit still to wait for elk in the mornings and evenings, he wanted to walk around because he was cold. He complained about riding horses every day, and I had to talk to him several times about being safe with his rifle. He did not mention anything while at camp about problems, and never mentioned the food. I do not believe we saw a public hunter when we were riding. We saw some hunters who where a ways off hunting in private land. This hunt was not the hunt for Mr. Feltenstein.

Mr. Feltenstein quit hunting after three partial days where the weather was terrible, so he hunted very little. Most, if not all the statements he made are untrue and not correct. This is another case of a hunter who complains because he didn't kill an elk. The weather was poor, the hunting was tough, and that is exactly what a late season elk hunt in the high country of Western Colorado is like, and that is what we offered him. Mr. Feltenstein just needs to continue doing his canned hunts in the future.

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E-mail from Andrew Feltenstein to The Hunting Report, January 22, 2016:

Thanks for forwarding this to me. I have copied all of this to the 4 other hunters who shared a tent with me. I think that they will corroborate my report. I have noticed that Larry's reply is fairly typical of outfitters who are criticized. They say the hunter was not prepared, was out of shape, complained all the time etc. Here are a few replies to Larry's comments.

Yours,
Andrew

"The temperature was below zero every night, and there were high winds, heavy snow and fog." There was no snow at all while I was there, the skies were clear and I never saw fog. I heard it snowed after I left.

"He did not have proper clothing for cold weather hunts, nor was he fit to handle the elements." I have the best Browning cold weather hunting clothes there are. I had no problem with the weather and never said anything about it.

"After talking to him in Camp, he mentioned hunting bear over bait and hunting in Africa and Australia, where you shoot game off the hood of your truck." I have never hunted bear, and never said I did. I was not aware that in Africa and Australia you shoot game off the hood of your truck.

"Mr. Feltenstein also did not mention that he only hunted three partial days of a six day hunt. Those three days, of which we had terrible weather, he was never ready at departure time and his guide had to wait for him every morning to go hunt." I did leave on the 4th day because of an emergency, but as I mentioned, the weather on the first 3 days was fine. We never knew when we would leave in the morning, and on the 3rd day the guides left early in order to help the TV crew and hunters. They may have waited 5 minutes for me.

"Also, he states in his complaint that out of 10 hunters, not a single shot was fired at elk, and then a few lines below, he tells how a bull was shot on the first day of the hunt." I said that one of the TV hunters got an elk on the first day of her hunt, not ours. "There were 2 bulls killed and 2 bulls missed that week." I don't know who got those bulls, but they were not us 10 hunters, who have been corresponding with each other.

"As for the road he talks about in his complaint, the Base Camp is located at the end of a Forrest Service Road. " I was not talking about this road. Rather, I was talking about the trails we rode, and where people were parking their trucks and setting up camp.

Comments from the guide: These generally just repeat what Larry says. A couple of things though are worth mentioning.

"I had to build a fire for him every morning to keep him warm." He never built a fire. Mostly we just sat around and ate snacks. "When we needed to sit still to wait for elk in the mornings and evenings, he wanted to walk around because he was cold" I wanted to walk around because sitting still did not seem to be helping us to find elk.

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E-mail from Doug Barrett to Andrew Feltenstein, January 22, 2016:

Thanks Andrew for forwarding Larry Amos' excuses. Regarding our "preparation" Mr. Jones may want to know that our group has been hunting elk in the Rockies on 7-8 occasions, we came well prepared with appropriate gear and expectations, and had no problems with weather. As for being physically prepared, l was in good shape having run 5 marathons in the past. Mr. Amos' responses are not accurate and future hunters should be aware of his questionable ethics. Doug

Sent from my iPad

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E-mail from Wayne Marion to The Hunting Report, January 22, 2016:

We have read some of the recent correspondence regarding evaluations of Winterhawk Outfitters in CO and we feel compelled to provide feedback on our experiences there during the third season for bull elk (early November 2015). We were distraught and disappointed with this elk hunt for several reasons (detailed below), the lack of useful communications, and the lack of follow-up from the Outfitter (Larry and Laura Amos). Our concerns were outlined and documented in a letter dated November 17, 2015 that was sent directly by U.S. Mail to Larry and Laura Amos. We have received NO reply to our earlier letter. In that letter, we also requested a partial REFUND of the cost of these hunts, but still we have received NO reply.

We are all veteran hunters and we all expected it to be a tough hunt, with several unknowns and no guarantees of success. We have hunted elk in various western states, both with and without outfitter services, and we feel qualified to evaluate and to comment on this 2015 experience. After we arrived at the Winterhawk Outfitter Camp, we were immediately told by Larry Amos that his permit to occupy and to hunt the Flattops Wilderness in 2016 and beyond had been denied by the U.S. Forest Service and that he would need to pull out ALL of his camp (including the cookhouse and shower) at the end of the 2015 season. He had also invested heavily in an expensive water system for the Camp and livestock and he discussed that briefly with us. Larry expressed his frustration to us about this situation and said that he was weighing his options for the future, including complete retirement. This whole discussion set a negative tone that was obvious throughout the week while we were there. On the positive side, we found the Camp accommodations, Camp personnel, and the livestock to be quite excellent compared to other outfitted hunts we have been on. The food served was edible, but BELOW average; it seemed to be nothing special, mostly leftovers.

The elk hunting experience, we believe, was seriously lacking in the following ways:

1. Our assigned Guide (Martin) was poor at communicating with us and not at all motivated to help us to be successful in harvesting a bull elk. Several times, we suggested that he (Martin) and his assistant (JR) might ride out or walk out through prime elk habitat and try to send animals out to us. Each such request was abruptly denied by Martin. Our Guides seemed to think that their 'job' was fulfilled by leading us in riding out to one location and tying up the horses/mules for the day. The 'hunt' then proceeded with hunters (us) sitting or standing in 1-2 spots all day long looking for elk to appear. We also were told that other guides would be hiking through the landscape to provide that function -- but that never really happened. Meanwhile, the Guides would lie down on the ground, sleep, and smoke e-cigs at a warming fire for much of the day. Near the end of the day, the Guides would set up another hunt for the last hour and then ride with us back to Camp after dark. This 4-5 hours of activity we did NOT think constituted an entire day of 'work' from the Guides. The bad attitude and lackluster performance from the Guides at Winterhawk Outfitters, we believe, contributed to 3 of the original 10 hunters quitting the hunt and leaving Camp by day 3, to several of us NOT seeing any elk at all, and to NONE of these 10 hunters getting a shot at either bull elk or buck deer during the hunt.

2. The focus for the week never seemed to be on the success of the paying hunters (the real clients here), but it was more on Jessica Amos and the public relations and filming efforts for the commercial 'Girls with Guns' (GWG) company. Much of the excitement and emphasis of the Camp Staff was focused upon the success of this GWG effort in filming and public relations. A bull elk was found early in the week for this GWG effort and our Guide (Martin) was pulled away from us for nearly an entire day to complete the harvest (with his knife) of a wounded bull elk for the GWG effort. This distraction of our guide was NOT at all fair to us. Likewise, the 6 hours of filming and interviews with the GWG staff served as unwelcome interruptions and distractions from what should have been the real hunting focus of the week (with us, the real paying clients).

3. We informed Larry Amos after dinner several times during the week that we were NOT seeing animals and that we were dissatisfied with the hunt. All we heard back was that he was 'working on it', but then nothing changed in terms of attitudes, assignments, or performance of the guides from the beginning of the week until the end. If anything, the week got worse rather than better! We also have heard the feedback from various outfitters and guides that the clients were out of shape, they could not walk far, they were looking for a 'canned' hunt, they were not dressed properly (for all weather conditions), and that they could not shoot. We believe that our group was an experienced group of elk hunters and that these shortcomings are unfounded. We have also heard the excuse that the weather was NOT conducive to our success; we experienced nearly every weather condition from balmy to blowing snow and cold above 10,000' during that week and we seriously doubt the validity of this assertion.

4. There were small children in Camp and that was NOT expected nor appropriate. NO ONE comes to elk camp to have little children present! These were Larry's grandchildren and Jessica's children who were there for several days and were (unfortunately) exposed to some very crude (even raunchy) language and jokes at dinnertime.

5. There were several confrontations between Larry Amos and his client hunters that were overheard by others in Camp. These issues should have been handled more privately and discreetly.

We hope that this information will help you to get a clearer picture of why we think Winterhawk Outfitters lost its focus and our respect and did not deliver a positive experience for us during the third elk season of 2015 in Colorado.

Sincerely,

Doug Barrett (FL), Bryan Carothers (FL), Andrew Feltenstein (GA), Wayne Marion (WA), and Lee Przybylski (WI)

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 8878 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 12, 2012 to October 13, 2012
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: Flat Tops Wilderness


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Williams
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elk - Availability: Average - Trophy Size: Average
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Average for the area.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Good
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $4800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $45
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: No problems!
Highlights of Hunt: Everything about this hunt exceeded my expectations.
Equipment Recommendations: High clearance 4x4 for base camp access.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? Beautiful hunting country, reliable outfitting and reasonable expectations of taking quality game.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: GK Harkness
Contact Information: Tel. 719-727-4045 - 78403 College Avenue | Towner | Colorado | USA | 81071 E-mail: plainview@fairpoint.net
Hunting Experience: Mule Deer, Whitetail Deer, Pronghorn Antelope, Elk, Moose, Small Game & Waterfowl.
Physical Condition: Average


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Speaking strictly for myself, I found everything about this hunt to be exemplary! I wanted a traditional pack-in (by horseback) wilderness hunt with a reasonable opportunity for an average-to-above-average bull elk. That is exactly what I got. The owners of Winterhawk, Larry & Laura Amos were congenial, friendly and efficient. The backcountry camp manager, Bob, clearly had enormous experience in wilderness hunting and made every effort to insure that hunting opportunities were matched to each hunters' expectations and abilities. The guide service was 2-on-one and mine was provided by John Williams, who has many, many years of experience in this region. All of the Winterhawk staff that I encountered were extremely courteous and helpful--extending from the Packers & Guides to the Cooks and Campjack. The meals provided by Karl B., the backcountry Cook, were the finest I have ever had in any camp. There were 5 other hunters in my camp, and by the luck of the draw, all were easy companions. The camps were clean, well provisioned and comfortable. If I had a complaint--and I don't--it would be that the hunt ended too soon. Unanticipated personal business concerns necessitated that I take the first bull that met my minimum standards and then cut the remainder of the trip short. I tagged out with an "average"--for the area--5x5 bull after only 6 hours of hunting. Better bulls were seen by my companions later in the trip. Only one note of concern---if you are getting yourself into their basecamp make sure that you have a very high clearance 4x4 vehicle. Leave your running boards at home :) I was very pleased with every aspect of my hunt and would not hesitate to recommend Winterhawk to other hunters.



Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 8076 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 23, 2010 to October 28, 2010
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: Flattops Wilderness


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any): Dustin Lanford
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elk, Rocky Mountain - Availability: Average - Trophy Size: 6x5 good
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Mule - Availability: Lack of trophy size sighted.
Game Condition Comments: Weather conditions were prohibitive of finding animals.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Good
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $3000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $910
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Fuel Amount: $700
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: Weather, guide was newer.
Highlights of Hunt: Guide worked very hard to overcome weather limitations and find bulls. Camp services and mules were excellent. Overall experience was outstanding.
Equipment Recommendations: Good cold weather gear.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? It was the epitome of a back country elk/mule deer hunt. The experience was what you read about in hunting magazines.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Pat Fay
Contact Information: Tel. 518-297-1394 - P.O. Box 274 Cadyville, NY 12918 E-mail: pfay_us@yahoo.com
Hunting Experience: 25+ years of deer hunting in the Northeast, SW Texas, and western states.
Physical Condition: Very good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Despite setbacks the overall hunt was everything that I expected.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 8071 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 20, 2010 to October 30, 2010
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: Flat tops.


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elk - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 5x5
Deer, Mule - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 5x5 30+ inch spread
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: I loved the area!


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $2500
Trophy Fees: Amount: $2000
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $650
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Meat processing Amount: $200
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: Being with my husband and a bunch of friends.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? It was a high class outfit that treats you as if you are part of the family and they do everything to make you feel at home and have good time.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Jessica Dominguez
Contact Information: Tel. 928-322-7933 - P.O. Box 311 Morenci, AZ 85540 E-mail: Jdominguez@gilahealth.com
Hunting Experience: Wonderful! Best I've ever had!
Physical Condition: Pretty good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 8026 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 16, 2010 to October 20, 2010
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: 25


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elk - Availability: Average - Trophy Size: 5X5.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: We were lucky to find elk on the first day and head them off the second in order to take our bulls early in the hunt. After that morning, their patterns expectantly changed and the animals were more difficult to find for the rest of the hunting party.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: N/A
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $1800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $550
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $150
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: We ran in to no major problems, we ran out of Coleman fuel early on, but were given more the next day. We were low on firewood when we got to camp, but that problem is easily remedied. No major problems at all.
Highlights of Hunt: Successfully killing my first bull elk on the second day of the hunt, right in the area that Larry had suggested we start looking for game. Our animals were packed out the next day, as were we, to get the meat to the processors. The camp equipment was new and easy to use, the tent comfortable and the water easily accessable. Camp was broken and packed out the day after the end of the hunt, which was incredibly convenient. All in all, it was one of the best hunting experiences we have had as a group, and the best I have had individually.
Equipment Recommendations: Individually, a comfy pair of camp shoes that will still allow you to hike out at night and get water and some extra rope to tie up wet clothes in the tent. Camp itself provides everything else.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? The outfitter and hands were amazing, very skillful and personable. Our hunt was successful and the country absolutely spectacular. The area we hunted was one of the best habitat areas we've ever been in for elk. Camp equipment was newer than other outfitters, and quite a bit nicer, and if there were any shortages in camp, they would be replenished the next day. Our animals were taken care of and packed out the next day. It was a great hunt.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Jessica Mackey
Contact Information: Tel. 540-604-4250 - 7 Secretariat Dr., Stafford, VA 22556 E-mail: jkm2s@virginia.edu
Hunting Experience: Living in virginia, I grew up hunting whitetail and migratory birds. I've been hunting all my life. Before this hunt, I had experienced one other elk, and one other mule deer hunt in Colorado, although my Dad has been going for the last ten years. I killed my first elk, a 5x5 bull, on the second day of the hunt.
Physical Condition: Excellent. Gymnastics and Triathlons will do that. As will yearly backpacking trips to Wyoming in the summer.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
My hunt with Winterhawk Outfitters in the Flattops has now shaped my expectations of future elk hunts in Colorado. Although my first elk hunt with a different outfitter was good, Laura and Larry at Winterhawk made this hunt spectacular. They were very helpful when it came to camp suggestions and hunting area suggestions (as can be attested to by the fact that my Dad and I killed our elk in the location Larry sent us looking for them). Camp and its equipment were better than any drop camp we had experienced so far on any other hunt. The country we hunted was absolutely gorgeous, some of the prettiest and most remote elk country that I have hunted, or even hiked through for that matter. I would recommend this hunt to anyone wishing to go on a drop-camp backcountry elk hunt.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Winterhawk Hunts

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DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 2904 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 2, 2001 to November 9, 2001
Place of Hunt: United States - Colorado
Hunt Area: Flat Top Wilderness Area.


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Larry Amos; Winterhawk. PO Box 425; Silt; CO; 81652; Tel. 970-876-2623; Email: hunts@winterhawk.com; Web www.winterhawk.com
Personal Guide (if any): Don Busch
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Elk - Availability: Weren't prepared for the extreme terrain.
Deer, Mule - Availability: Last day hunt and my son missed two nice bucks because of range.
Game Condition Comments: Game was plentiful and we saw elk everyday. Also saw bighorn sheep. We saw two or three shootable raghorns, a couple of nice five by fives and one nice five by six.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment:
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care:
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: $3,200 per person, two on one, packed in hunt. Amount: $6400
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: $450 for bull tag, $231 for mule deer tag. Amount: $681
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Tips. Service was excellent Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: We weren't prepard for long range shooting.
Highlights of Hunt: Excellent packed in hunt and outfitter. We were at 11,000 feet for the week. Lots of game and extreme terrain. Little snow so elk were still in high country.
Equipment Recommendations: Be prepared for over 300 yard shots ridge to ridge. Part of the elk were at treeline at 100 yards. Others were at 400-600 yards. Saw elk every day.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Anthony Nichols
Contact Information: Tel. 281-681-9034 - 28223 Nancy Lane, Conroe, TX 77385 E-mail: w.anthony.nichols@accenture.com
Hunting Experience: Over 20 years of big game hunting in SW, SE, West.
Physical Condition: Average to below average.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL



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