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Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 6515 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 19, 2007 to October 21, 2007
Place of Hunt: Namibia - Kavango
Hunt Area: Babwatata, Buffalo Camp North


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Buffalo, Cape - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size:
Springbok - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size:
Oryx - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size:
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Very large population of all species observed in a drive through the park. Your article in 08/07 issue of Hunting Report is a must read for anyone planning on a hunt in Namibia. Wonderful program with positive results for the indigenious people, the game and the outfitter.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: N/A
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: N/A
Quality of Food: Good Trophy Care: N/A
Name of Airline: Delta and Air Namibia. Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments: I did not take my own rifle.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $0
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: Seeing 100's of buffalo, many kudu, warthogs, sable, impala, etc. Habitat being overrun by elephant.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Joseph Cioccolanti
Contact Information: Tel. 845-279-6565 - 2022 Rte 22, Brewster, NY E-mail: dutchboybrewster@aol.com
Hunting Experience: Over 60 years - Scotland, Spain, British Columbia, Nevada, Montana and Wyoming.
Physical Condition: Good for 83 years old.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 6397 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: September 18, 2007 to September 20, 2007
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Bobwatha Game Park


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Kudu - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 61 inches.
Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 75 X 73.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Was my second hunt with this outfitter. My elephant last year was 78 X 76 and that hunt was over in three days, this year the hunt last two days. Plenty of elephants, lots of buffalo and huge kudu.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Delta Airline Service: Poor
Airline Comments: Flew business class and was treated like coach. Did not get any VIP service whatsoever. I was told Delta's new international policy was all treated the same.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: All inclusive. Amount: $35000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: Shooting a record class kudu and a very nice elephant.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? Great hunt and outfitter, since the hunt was over so early the PH rented an single engine Cessna and flew us to Victoria Falls, all commercial flights were booked. Visited Chobe National Park also.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Mark Todd DMD
Contact Information: Tel. 407-628-4808 - 331 N Maitland Ave., Maitland, FL 32751 E-mail: marktodd1076@earthlink.net
Hunting Experience: My tenth safari to Africa.
Physical Condition: Good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 5788 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 1, 2006 to November 12, 2006
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Caprivi Park


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any): Charles Goldenberg; Premier Safaris. PO Box 651; Apopka; FL; 32704; Tel. 407-889-9778; Fax: 321-978-9204;Email: premiersafaris@att.net;
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Over 60 pounds.
Antelope, Klipspringer - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 4 7/8 inches.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Lots of big elephants if willing to work for them. I have most of the plains game animals. John led me to a 4 7/8 inch klipspringer. World record is 4 1/8 inches. Great Hunt. There are guys who could complain with a world record. John and all his people were the best. Fair and very helpful. I feel I have friends on the African continent.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Delta and Air Namibia Airline Service: Good
Airline Comments: My luggage and guns made it to Namibia and returned to us as planned.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $25000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $3000
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Taxidermist, B&B, gifts and personal transportation. Amount: $500
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: Nice camp, nice people and a very good PH and equipment. Laundry was done daily, hot showers and good food. I go hunting. I do not look for four star accommodation in the bush.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? My friends and I will be returning in 2008. Beautiful country and game galore. The hunt of a lifetime for a real hunter.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Roland Hutchinson
Contact Information: Tel. 419-592-0112 - N 707 Rd 11-C, Napoleon, OH 43545 E-mail: mjh@wcnet.org
Hunting Experience: I have hunted for 50 years and this was the most rewarding hunt ever. This was my fourth trip to Africa and by far the best. Trophies from 2003 South Africa arrived this month after a three year battle. I have already been contacted by Namibia taxidermist regarding this months hunt. One cannot ask for more.
Physical Condition: Fair. I left home with back problem which made the hunt a bit more challenging.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 5797 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 13, 2006 to October 23, 2006
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Caprivi - Babwatha Park


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any): Charles Goldenberg; Premier Safaris. PO Box 651; Apopka; FL; 32704; Tel. 407-889-9778; Fax: 321-978-9204;Email: premiersafaris@att.net;
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 70 plus pounder taken.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Elephants everywhere. Lots of kudu, buffalo and sable.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Lufthansa Airline Service: Fair
Airline Comments: Lost luggage coming home, two weeks to get guns.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: All inclusive. Amount: $25000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $2100
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Tips. Amount: $2900
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: None........the hunt went off w/out a hitch. I had booked an elephant hunt with Usangu Safaris but was told no elephants in their few remaining concessions. I had already scheduled time off from my practice, so I called Charlie Goldenberg from Premeire Safaris and asked if he had any last minute elephant hunts. Charlie Goldenberg of Premier Safaris told me about this new hunt in the Caprivi strip and how sucessful the first clients had been. I booked the hunt right then.
Highlights of Hunt: This was my eighth Safari, taking 2 lions, 4 leopards and numerous Cape buffalo, but I still never saw many elephants. John Wambach's safari company put me on elephants from day one. We saw many elephants in the 60 plus pound range, but most of them had a broken or missing tusk. John assured me we would find a good bull. Well, on the third morning we did. After a long 10 mile stalk/speed walk/run we caught up w/ the old bull. A few shots later I had my trophy of a lifetime. John estimated the bull's tusk would be in the 70 lb plus range. It was by far the most exciting and adreneline filled hunt of my lifetime. I can't thank Charlie Goldenberg of Premier Safaris and John Wambach of Pro-Guiding for providing me a hunt of a lifetime. The only downside was the hunt was over in 3 days. Namibia was by far the cleanest and most hunter friendly country I have visited.
Equipment Recommendations: Bring a camel water pack. Can be very hot and expect to walk/speed walk long distances.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? Without a doubt I would recommend this hunt. Heck I am thinking about re-booking myself.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Mark Todd
Contact Information: Tel. 407-628-4808 - 331 N Maitland Ave., Maitland, FL 32751 E-mail: marktodd1076@earthlink.net
Hunting Experience: Extensive.
Physical Condition: Found out on this hunt it was not what I thought it was. Get in shape and expect to cover a lot of ground on foot and fast.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
All I can say is wow!! Truely a magnificant time. John and his wife were two of the most gracious hosts one could hope to hunt with. John's knowledge of elephants is vast and knows where to find them. This being his first year in the Park, I expect next year will be even better. John and his wife following the hunt took us to the coast where we had a blast riding the quads in the massive sand dunes just off the Atlantic ocean. I wish I could have made the hunt last longer, but who is going to pass up a 70lb plus elephant....

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 5916 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 13, 2006 to October 21, 2006
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Caprivi Game Park


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any): Charles Goldenberg; Premier Safaris. PO Box 651; Apopka; FL; 32704; Tel. 407-889-9778; Fax: 321-978-9204;Email: premiersafaris@att.net;
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 40 pounds.
Kudu, Greater - Availability: Average - Trophy Size: 54 inches.
Game Sought But Not Taken: Lion - Availability: None in area.
Game Condition Comments: Though represented as the safari of a lifetime, I found the game opportunity to be mediocre. Caprivi may be the closest thing to canned hunting outside South Africa. Saw no lions, and was told by locals there are virtually no lions in this area. Found out this outfitter sold the same lion permit to multiple hunters this year and none got a lion. There are many elephants in the area, but few really large trophy bulls. Lots of cape buffalo, most in the high 30's but some in the low 40's. Though the one I got was by far the largest, did see several kudu. Also saw some duiker.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Poor Guide/PH Ability: Poor
Condition of Camp: Poor Condition of Equipment: Poor
Quality of Food: Poor Trophy Care: Poor
Name of Airline: Air Namibia Airline Service: Good
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $25000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: Hunt was booked as a 1x1, and was promised I would be the only hunter in the entire park. After I paid in full the outfitter changed it to a 2X2 and refused to give a refund. Was told area was so huge would never run into the other hunter. When I arrived found out that the concession is only for half the park, about a 30 mile by 30 mile area, and 80% of it was burned down. Was given a PH who had never hunted the area before. On first day walked after tracks for 15 miles, only to find that the second hunter intercepted the same elephant on another road. After I took an elephant (albeit not a large one), the PH refused to allow me to leave early. I have never had a guide be so unhelpful. Transport truck broke down, bald tires, and no gas. When I finally arranged for a car (for an additional $1,200), the PH tried to prevent me from leaving unless I paid him in cash for additional charges I never agreed to (like a $500 "donation" toward a new truck).
Highlights of Hunt: Instantly dropping a bull elephant with a single shot to the brain.
Equipment Recommendations: Not the high-end safari experience you normally associate with Africa. Camp was the most primitive I have ever been to, and by far the most in Africa. Slept on a canvas cot in a pup tent. Had cold cereal for breakfast, and margarine sandwiches and Tab for lunch. No salads or green vegetables in sight for dinner. Only did laundry once while I was there, so bring more clothing than you normally would for an African safari.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? no
Why? John Wamback is disreputable, unprofessional and unethical. I strongly caution all hunters not to trust your money, or your life, to this man.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: John C Kirkland
Contact Information: Tel. 310-573-1554 - 754 Swarthmore Ave., Pacific Palisades, CA 90272 E-mail: jckirkland@gmail.com
Hunting Experience: Extensive.
Physical Condition: Excellent.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? yes Notified Personal Guide? yes Notified Booking Agent? yes
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide? yes
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought? Refund of additional charged incurred.


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Rebuttal from Charlie Goldenberg of Premier Safaris I hereby forward your email with the attached negative John Kirkland report to John Wamback and his other clients and request replies. I offer a few brief comments: 1). Only recently was John Wamback awarded this very unique "Fair Chase" hunting INSIDE the famous Caprivi National Park. As we all are aware, this SPECIALLY approved National Park safari hunting is one of the very few opportunities to hunt Dangerous game in Namibia and has its own unique restrictions/requirements. 2). Even though for many, many years I have been booking Caprivi and other Namibian areas' Elephant safaris, it wasn't until Mid-July before I began booking for John Wamback/Pro Guides. 3). After scheduling an entire back to back season of clients with John Wamback, I was later advised that the daily Windhoek-Katima commercial airline service was drastically reduced to a once per week service on Mondays only. Our entire back to back season schedule was forced by uncontrollable circumstances to be revised!!!! 4). There also was a very HONEST miscommunication regarding the length of time John Wamback was to conduct hunts in the National Park. A message was sent stating elephants had to be taken by the end of November, but an earlier message in July stated John's National Park hunting would conclude mid November. This caused confusion, extra work, extra expenses... for John, myself and my clients but after all was said and done there were NOT hard feelings because there was no deceit involved. 5). John advised me that he had to live up to his commitment to the Namibians and shot all 8 of his elephant permits. This meant that in order to conclude National Park hunts by mid November, the last 2 safaris had to be conducted on a 2x2 basis - 2 separate phs with 2 separate cars and 2 separate sets of hunting staff. Only during the last two safaris was the camp shared by 2 clients at a time but there was absolutely no degeneration of hunting success or in the quality of game harvested. This rescheduling did create some extra expense for all of us. 6). In the beginning there was some ambiguity regarding meet/greets... but this was clarified by our first client Bob Howe, John Wamback and his wife,Anneli. This helped get the essential details that really made it smooth for the others. I am NOT upset at all because when a new hunting arrangement is established, traditionally there are some inefficiencies on everyone's part and that includes me as a broker. 7). Right after the first safari (Bob Howe) - a fire broke out and traversed into the National Park. The first reports to John Wamback stated the entire place burned down and all the elephants left the National Park. Understandably, John immediately called and emailed me and was in the process of canceling all the remaining hunts. What a horrible shock and disappointment to so many of us. However, once John had a day or two to investigate the so called crisis, he reported all was fine for hunting and the elephants were still there in large numbers. My 2nd client, after canceling the day he was to depart the US, rescheduled and enjoyed the hunt of his life. All others afterwards also enjoyed super productive hunting and even John Kirkland shot his elephant on the 2nd morning. 8). The financial transactions were expedient and were extremely simple as John banks in the US. I received payment confirmations each and every time just as requested. Not one argument about money between this outfitter and myself nor with the clients. The only exception is John Kirkland. The other six reported no financial disputes and left very GENEROUS tips. 9). It should be noted that John Wamback's National Park elephant safaris were sold to my clients at a substantially lower price than his competitor's community elephant safaris that I had recently sold to other clients. This National Park offer was sold well under market price. 10). These were not perfect safaris but they did produce the largest ivory poundage vs the amount of money the clients spent. All other clients returned EXTREMELY happy and realized this was a very unique hunting opportunity that had some restrictions. They also understood that John Wamback and myself were LAUNCHING this innovative venture into a famous National Park and some start-up frustrations would be forthcoming. Yes, there were some pre-hunt frustrations but NO one complained once they experienced their safari. They did not return complaining that they were cheated or treated unfairly. In conclusion, all my other clients reported back to me: 1. John and Anneli were wonderful hosts. 2). John was a GREAT ph. 3). They treasure their hunt with John Wamback as the best ever or right up there with some other TOP experiences in their life. John Wamback must submit his detailed report and the above comments cover what I feel is pertinent at this time. Regards, Charlie Goldenberg President Premier Safaris, Inc. Rebuttal from John Wamback of Pro Guiding Thank you for the opportunity to be able to react to the report . Species took : he informed the ph hunting with him , that he wanted the first legal bull they saw.they shot the elephant the 2 nd day. The kudu he took the first day was 60 " Failed Species : Lion : He never booked a lion hunt and was out in the field hunting 2 days , he shot his kudu day one and his elephant day 2. Game condition : Taking 2 animals which he wanted in 2 days in a non fenced area of 70 miles by 30 miles. He saw no lion as he never hunted for them and spent two days in the field and traveled 2 roads in the whole area. The lion tag was sold to Mr. Don Schuch of Texas, and John was sore about it, as he did not have a deposit paid for the hunt and lost the tag. Other hunters took elephants into the 50 lbs and 2 where taken that have gone into the 70 `s. He never took a cape buffalo. Problem of hunt: Charlie Goldenberg has explained the reason why a 2x2 hunt was done and John was informed of this before he arrived. The concession area is 70 miles by 30 miles and is the Buffalo Core area in the Babwata National park, and has been advertised as this. The clients where informed of the burn before they arrived. It did not affect the hunting as it only concentrated the elephants, and made for better hunting.The Ph, Mr. Pete Kibble is one of the most experienced big game Ph's in Namibia, Born in Kenia and hunted East Africa for many years, and a fine gentleman of the old School, he has worked for my company for many years and can not be faulted, he has hunted all areas in Namibia. It was my first year in this area. The elephant he says that was intercepted by the second hunter after tracking it for 15 miles, was not intercepted it had merely crossed a road that had been used by the other hunting party, the other party never even knew the elephant had been there as it had crossed behind them.The elephant he took was one he elected to take instructing his Ph, he wanted the first legal bull he saw.On the night after takeing his elephant at around 9 o'clock I was instructed by John that he had to be in Windhoek by 6:00 pm to make his flight back to the States. I informed him that the only option was a charter flight to come and pick him up. He then said that Mr. Pete Kibble could drive him to Windhoek a Distance of 1000 km, I informed him that this is not possible as the elephant was still out in the field and had to be slaughtered and the meat to be distributed to the local population as per our contract and that Mr. Kibble was responsible for this as he was the Ph. John told me that it was not an option and that I had to get him to Windhoek. He would not accept that the only way to get to Windhoek was by charter. After a day I found someone in Windhoek who was prepared to travel up from Windhoek and come and fetch John, at his cost. The Driver arrived during the night, and it was agreed that he would pay the driver the cost of $1,200.The driver took John down to Windhoek and upon arrival at the airport, refused to pay the driver and told him to get the money from me. The driver told him that this was not the arrangement and that he would have to pay, where upon John told him that he did not have any money. The driver then went to the Namibian Police at the airport and informed then that John would not pay for the transfer, they then informed John that he would not be leaveing Namibia until he had paid the driver, he then paid the driver. The transport truck John refers to is an old land cruiser that is used in the camp to collect fire wood and unfit for any other use.In his contract it is stated that all additional cost will be settled in camp. The $500 donation was toward a firefighter for the Ministry and Environment and Tourism of Namibia to protect the area against burns, and this had been organised by myself and the Agent Mr. Charlie Goldenberg and all the clients had agreed to it as it would help everybody in their hunts and also be good publicity for hunters protecting the parks and wildlife , all the other hunters contributed to this and Mr. Rick Steiner, who also hunted with us, presented the unit to the Ministry of environment and Tourism. Special Equipment recommendations: The camp is not a permanent camp and only a spike camp as we where only allowed to hunt the area for 4 months and have to vacate the area until the contracts are renew for next year. The price of the safari is not for a full high end safari and every other client was happy with camp. The laundry is done every day. Condition : He complained all the way when they where tracking the elephant, and I was informed that he could not keep up with his Ph , who is 65 . Comment from Mark Todd I am writing in response to John Kirkland's report to the Hunting Report. I was the second hunter on the hunt John was referring to. I am not sure what planet or what camp he was at, but it was not the same one I enjoyed. First of all, he started complaining the moment I met him". Why did we have to get a room for the night, when they could have driven us to camp"? Mind you it is over 1000km away. Then when we were shopping for groceries, it took some time before we left for camp. He complained every 5 minutes, "what are we doing here?" I can honestly say, this being my eighth safari to Africa, it was the best hands down. Yes, camp was a little rustic, but I found it very comfortable. The food was awesome, not sure what table John Kirkland was sitting at. The 3rd night we had dinner consisting of T-bone steaks and other wonderful items. He took one bite and said, "This ain't no Ruth Chris Steakhouse." John Wamback and his wife were the consummate professionals from the first to the last days we were there. John shot a huge Kudu and told me he was going to shoot the first legal bull elephant he saw. John did not even bring a camera, Peter, his PH had to take all the pictures for him w/ his camera. His hunt was over in two days, and he demanded to be taken back to town. He never sat around the camp fire with us or had anything positive to say. He did not even congratulate me on my elephant. I can honestly say the Hunting Report would be doing the hunting community a favor by warning outfitters about John Kirkland. I would not hunt w/ him on a free Big 5 hunt!!!! I would recommend this hunt to anyone who is capable of walking and shoots straight and wants to harvest a very nice elephant. Rebuttal from PH P.D. Kibble I was contracted to guide a client by the name of John Kirkland for John Wambach owner of Pro Guide safaris. The hunt was scheduled from the 16th of October to 28th 2006. I met Mr. Kirkland on the afternoon of the 16th plus the two other clients, Mark and Greg who were hunting with John. From the very first moment I met Mr. Kirkland I felt uneasy with him and his attitude. However, on the first afternoon of the hunt I was able to obtain for him a magnificient kudu in the upper fifties. On the second day I managed to find him a lovely bull elephant this was now late afternoon of 18th October 2006. At the end of dinner Mr. Kirkland suddenly announced he was leaving the next day with me to connect his flight from Windhoek the next day. This was 1,000 km from camp to the Hosea Kutako Airport an impossible task in a Toyota hunting car, plus my two staff and equipment to be there in time. Mr. Kirkland had obviously made all this sudden new plans by Sat Phone with total disregard to the operator or anyone else when we told him under no circumstance was I able to leave as I had to go back to the area were we had shot the elephant, butcher and bring back the meat as this is the law of the land and my duty as a Professional Hunter. Mr. Kirkland exploded into a very unreasonable argument with John Wambach and demanding that he arrange transport immediately. He had a total disregard for how anything is done and in my opinion utterly spoiled and obnoxious young man - that he is. This argument went on and on and eventually dragged the other clients into it, which ruined the whole evening for all concerned. I cannot believe a man whom has just taken the lives of two of Africa's most beautiful animals could possibly behave in this manner. I could say more about Mr. Kirkland but will not. In all the years that I have hunted and experienced I have never met such an objectionable person not to mention my trackers and skinners never even received as much as a thank you from him for all their hard work. I hope to never set eyes on Mr. Kirkland again. Comments from Rick Steiner I understand there has been a complaint by John Kirkland about an elephant hunt he recently completed with Pro-Guiding/John Wamback in Namibia. I also went on an elephant hunt w/ John that I booked through Charlie Goldenberg of Premier Safaris. I can't rebut John's complaints directly because I wasn't with John and certainly can't contradict his opinions of his experience, but I do want to share my experience so Hunting Report subscribers can draw their conclusions from multiple reports about the same outfitter and hunt. I booked this hunt based on Charlie Goldenberg's recommendation. It was in Babwatha Park and Charlie said it would be a great opportunity to shoot an elephant with nice ivory at a relatively reasonable price. I did in fact do exactly that. I shot an elephant with ivory of over 60 and over 70 pounds. The cost of the hunt was about $29K including the price of the hunt ($25K), airfare, ground transportation, trophy prep, and tips. The hunt was a quality, fair chase hunt. I walked approximately 10-15 miles per day in very hot weather. I got to see literally hundreds of elephant (I would conservatively guess that we saw over 500 elephants in 7 days of hunting). We were charged by a group of about seven bulls at a distance of less than 30 yards, and had cows come hunting us on several occasions. I shot my elephant on the evening of the 6th day, as well as another elephant I shot for the Game Dept on the 2nd day. The elephant I shot for the Game Dept had stepped on a land mine, and had ivory of 40-45lbs (which is better than many hunters take on a paid-for elephant!). For me, the hunt was both successful and a quality hunting experience with tough conditions and lots of game. Was everything perfect? No, of course not. We had a lot of stress right before departure because bush fires were reported to have burned down the entire concession and I in fact had cancelled the hunt. I was called back the day I had been scheduled to depart and told the fires were out, the elephants were still there, and to come hunting. I started a few days late, and it cost me about $300 to change my flights, but that was about it. John was definitely a competent PH. I have hunted in Tanzania, S. Africa, Zimbabwe, Namibia, and Benin, as well as all over Europe and N. America. I have also done self-guided in Africa, as well as having shot the vast majority of Africa's plains game and three of the big five, so I feel competent to make a judgement about the knowledge, skill, and experience of a PH. John was definitely a competent elephant PH and I would have no hesitation whatsoever about hunting with him in the future for lion or rhino (the two dangerous game species I don't have yet). From what I saw he is physically fit, a good judge of game and spoor, and can manage his staff and equipment. No issues with John. Pro-Guiding's equipment, staff, and client support seemed fine to me. I don't require deluxe accomodations or food. I slept on a cot in an 8'X10" tent which I had to myself. That was fine for me. The camp cook and camp manager both did a good job, as did the trackers and skinners. I thought the food was good. We had an excellent meal in the mornings and evenings, and lunch seemed ample - sandwiches (with meat or egg salad), fruit, chips, and plenty to drink - all reasonably cold. Vehicles always ran. I suppose if I had paid $40K or $50K for this hunt, I would have expected more. But I was told when I booked that this was a late breaking opportunity, there was no time to build permanent camps, and that living conditions would be adequate but not luxurious, so I definitely did not feel like I got surprised. The one thing I didn't like was I got my quota elephant on day 6. Day 7 we spent dealing with the carcass. Day 8 we drove back to Windhoek. I would have liked to keep hunting, but John needed to get back to Windhoek to prepare for the next clients, one of whom I believe was John Kirkland. I had booked a 12 day hunt and I'm the kind of person who will hunt until the last hour of the last day if I can. The deal I made with John though was that I would hunt for Hartman's Zebra, and some other species with a PH nearer to Windhoek during the last three days of my original schedule. I did so and killed both a zebra and a leopard, so I was a very happy client as you would imagine. The negative point to take from the foregoing was that the schedule was not adhered to. In my opinion though, Africa creates a lot of scheduling problems by it's very nature and responding to those problems gracefully and thoughtfully is part of the charm of African hunting. I can't imagine shooting a couple of animals on day one and two and then demanding to be driven 700 miles back to Windhoek immediately. Butchering and distributing the elephant carcasses was a great part of the experience which I thoroughly enjoyed and took some great photos of. Furthermore, when I am successful early it only energizes me for more. I would have been out shooting leopard baits and buffalo. My impressions of the concession were that there were a LOT of elephant, some excellent buffalo and sable, a few roan, a lot of very good common reedbuck, lots of hippo, some crocodile, lots of kudu including some good bulls, etc. I neither saw nor heard any lion or hyena, which was disappointing. I bought an elephant hunt and I definitely got that. I like to shoot as many species as I can though and that is not in the cards right now on this hunt. There was very little on quota because this hunt in the park is new. Perhaps in the future, there will be more. This would be a good place to go for buffalo and sable, as well as kudu, but the trophy fees are high ($6K for a buffalo and $8K for a sable). The burned areas did not detract at all from the hunting. In fact the buffalo and sable seemed to prefer them as new grass was starting to come up. The area seemed plenty large enough for one hunter. I know John hunted on a 2X2 basis and felt like the area was too small. I can't address that other than to say that I felt like there was a lot of area to hunt, lots of elephant, and no fences. I can't ask for more. In conclusion, I got what I paid for and am very happy w/ my experience and my elephant. John was a good PH, the equipment was servicable and fully adequate, the concession was good with lots of game, the camp and food were good but not lavish, and the price was right. Furthermore, everything was as represented by Charlie Goldenberg at Premier Safaris. Charlie did a FANTASTIC job keeping me informed and advising me of what was going on with the concession and the hunt. I have never had a booking agent that was as involved as Premier Safaris. I must emphasize that everything was exactly as represented - I was not surprised by anything whatsoever. The one area that could use improvement is coordination and communication, and I think that problem was mostly between Pro-Guiding and the Namibia Game Department. That may improve if this concession is renewed and Pro-Guiding and the Game Department develop a better understanding of how this concession is going to be administered. A key point is that I never felt like I wasn't getting the truth. Accordingly I was pretty accommodating with schedule changes. I would advise anyone who wants a trophy elephant hunt to book this hunt and go kill a big bull. If you want a full bag hunt for the big four or five, I would say look elsewhere, but Pro-Guiding/Premier Safaris hunt in the Caprivi is tops for a big elephant - if you have a pulse and can shoot you WILL get a big bull.

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DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4573 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 12, 2004 to November 25, 2004
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Eastern Caprivi


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any): Joe Demby; Safaris & Quilts. 5550 Vargo Lane; Prince George; VA; 23875; Tel. 804-541-1390; Email: jdemby@firstsaga.com; Web www.safarisandquilts.com
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Over 50 pounds.
Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Meat elephant. 40 pounds.
Zebra - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Adult.
Game Sought But Not Taken: Lion - Availability: None seen.
Crocodile - Availability:
Game Condition Comments: Good elephant, hippo and buffalo areas. Villagers keep smaller game in short supply. Anthrax outbreak in Chobe, but we saw no sick animals.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Good Guide/PH Ability: Good
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Good
Quality of Food: Good Trophy Care: Good
Name of Airline: South African Airlines. Airline Service: Good
Airline Comments: In Capetown, you have to go through customs (including getting a gun permit) even if you are just transferring directly to another international flight.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: $12,000 trophy elephant, $450 unsuccessful lion. Amount: $12450
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $2100
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Tips. Amount: $1500
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: November is very hot. Take a backpack-type water carrier for long walks following elephant tracks.
Highlights of Hunt: Getting in close on several groups of elephant. Getting photos of big buffalo. Seeing game daily from main camp on Chobe river. Big black Mamba.
Equipment Recommendations: Backpack water carrier.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? Good people, good price, an interesting area.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Stephen Graves MD
Contact Information: Tel. 479-646-7226 - 11006 Rye Hill Rd. South, Ft. Smith, AR 72916 E-mail: sgraves155@yahoo.com
Hunting Experience: 40 years of deer hunting, 13 trips to Alaska/Canada. Second Africa hunt.
Physical Condition: Good for 55.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Although we did not see a male lion, John's clients had killed several very good ones this year. A lioness killed a bull calf 500 yards in front of my tent during daylight hours. She and another lioness had three young cubs with them. I heard one male roaring between midnight and 4 am close to camp on one night. We had lots of dead and live bait out, just no luck. Earlier clients had taken excellent buffalo and hippo and other game. This is really a good elephant area. It appears as if the elephants have eaten Chobe National Park bare, and are having to come into Namibia/Zimbabwe/Angola areas. We saw 100 elephants on the first day. We got the largest bull elephant we saw during the trip, and the governor of a second area authorized a meat bull to be taken for the local villagers. The villagers were very happy to get it. At this time of year, dehydration/heat exhaustion can come on very quickly, be prepared.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4503 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 11, 2004 to November 25, 2004
Place of Hunt: Namibia -
Hunt Area: Eastern Caprivi


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): John Wamback; Pro-Guiding and Hunting Safaris. PO Box 11647; Klein Windhoek; Namibia; Tel. 011-264-811288373; Email: proguide@iway.com; Web www.pro-guiding.com
Personal Guide (if any): John Wamback
Booking Agent (if any): Joe Demby; Safaris & Quilts. 5550 Vargo Lane; Prince George; VA; 23875; Tel. 804-541-1390; Email: jdemby@firstsaga.com; Web www.safarisandquilts.com
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 52 pound per tusk.
Elephant - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Meat bull for villages, 35-40 pound tusks.
Zebra - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Adult.
Game Sought But Not Taken: Lion - Availability: Never hit our baits, no tracks seen.
Game Condition Comments: From the hides, skulls, and very recent photos, this area has some tremendous trophies.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Good Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Good Trophy Care: Good
Name of Airline: South African Airlines. Airline Service: Fair
Airline Comments: They lost a bag coming back.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $24750
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $2100
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Baits. Amount: $650
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: John was unexpectedly forced to go see a government minister in the middle of the hunt. The trip took three days out of the hunt. John did not charge me for those days. Although I did not see an adult male lion, there are good ones in the area. I think I just hit both areas we hunted at a time that the lions had moved out for a while. Several excellent lions were taken there this year.
Highlights of Hunt: Long hours of tracking elephants, then getting close. Having a lioness kill a bull calf out of a herd of cattle within view of my tent. Getting some good pictures of a buffalo.
Equipment Recommendations: For the elephant tracking in the extreme temperatures of November, a backpack type water carrier.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? A good big-game area, excellent PH, good prices.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Stephen Graves
Contact Information: Tel. 479-646-7226 - 11006 Rye Hill Rd South, Ft. Smith, AR E-mail: sgraves@ipa.net
Hunting Experience: More than a dozen Canada/Alaska hunts. Many years of deer hunting. Second trip to Africa.
Physical Condition: Good for 55 years.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
In the middle of the hunt, the PH had to go to Windhoek to answer to a basically bogus complaint. The complaintant failed to show for the meeting. Luckily there was a visiting PH in camp from South Africa. He had his truck, and although we couldn't hunt, we arranged to get baits ready for when John returned. After getting a trophy bull elephant on the first day, we were fortunate in the second week to be asked by the governor of the conservancy to shoot an elephant for meat for the villagers. The only condition was that it must be the first adult male we encountered. I was happy to accept the opportunity. We tracked elephants for several days before getting our chance - another good bull. Although I would have preferred to get an opportunity on lion, sometimes the luck is all on the game's side. The lions they killed this year were fabulous. July or August would probably be a better time to hunt.



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