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Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 7555 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: December 3, 2009 to December 7, 2009
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area:


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any): Stacy Ward
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: B&C - 150.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Abundant trophy whitetails - numerous taken annually from 150 B&C to 190 B&C. Very well managed free ranging deer herd. Outfitter caters and specializes in bow hunters - many Pope & Young trophies taken each year - free range.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Guide/PH Ability:
Condition of Camp: Condition of Equipment:
Quality of Food: Trophy Care:
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $0
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt:
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? N/A
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name:
Contact Information:
Hunting Experience:
Physical Condition:


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 7556 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: December 3, 2009 to December 7, 2009
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area:


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any): Stacy Ward
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: B&C 150.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Abundant trophy whitetails. Numerous taken annually from 150 B&C to 190 B&C. Very well managed free ranging deer herd.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: 4 day hunt - Firearms season. Amount: $4350
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Out of state license. Amount: $320
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Guide and staff tips. Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: Staying in excellent lodge - seeing numerous trophy bucks. Friendly, helpful staff. Super overall experience.
Equipment Recommendations: Warm clothing.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why? Absolutely - very much a first class operation.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Bob Harper
Contact Information: Tel. 972-235-9619 -
Hunting Experience: Extensive - Africa, Europe, Asia, South Pacific, Western USA, Yukon, Alaska, British Columbia.
Physical Condition: Average.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4952 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 23, 2004 to November 28, 2004
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area:


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: Are appeared to be severely overhunted.
Game Condition Comments: Does, very small bucks... this outfit runs literally hundreds of hunters per year.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Poor Guide/PH Ability: Poor
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Good
Quality of Food: Good Trophy Care: Poor
Name of Airline: Airline Service: Good
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $2800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $2800
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: I read Scott Hebertson's report (ID# 4623) and Stacey wards rebuttal stating "his report is not true and borders on absurd". I hunted with Hadley Creek Outfitters the week following Scott's hunt, November 23 thru November 28. I left this hunt early (as did several others in the camp) and my experience is simular to Scotts. The camp was fairly new and in excellent shape leading me to believe this was a first class outfit upon my arrival. But by day two things just didn't seem right to myself and others in camp and I'll explain why. Everyday we switched guides. Unusual maybe, but not that bad until each of us in camp started noticing that the stories that others were telling about their stand and location were in fact where someone else had been the day before. It appeared we were being shifted between guides who was hunting the same locations with different hunters each day. This is not just my perception but the perception shared between most hunters present. By the way, we had 21 bow hunters in camp that week and one of the quides there estimated that Hadley Creek had already had approximately 300 bowhunters and 40-50 shotgun hunters there prior to my group. Here are some specific incidents: A hunter from Michigan, Al shot a small buck app. 100 B & C the first day. He was thrilled as this was his first bow killed buck. We could hunt does after you haverest a buck, however his guides did not take him out again for two days. He was tired of TV to say the least. In addition the buck he shot on the first day had been hanging on the meat pole in camp and when I left on day five it had yet to be even gutted. Two men from Texas (Kieth & Gordon) had hunted in October and had a bad hunt then too. Stacy had agreed for them to return in November for just a nominal fee. Both had been told they would be the only one's in camp that week. Upon their arrival there was 21 other hunters allready there. They left after two days. A man from Conneticut (Jack) arrowed a decent buck he estimated at around 130 B & C in what he described as a high lung hit. The guide said to let it rest a few hours then they would trail it. A reasonable request. Stacy opted to wait 24 hours before trailing. The morning he shot the buck there was two - three inches of new snow on the ground. 24 hrs. later 70% or more of the snow had melted. Where he shot the deer the snow indicated good blood, I'm told, but after 40-50 yards the snow was gone and so was any tracks or blood sign. The guide and outfitters stopped looking after less than 100 yards and informed Jack he made a bad hit. He was not happy with their efforts or their attitude. He too, left early and since I drove him to the airport I can tell you he paid several hundred dollars just to get a flight home early and was glad to do it. Needless to say he left early too. A man from Boston (Rich) saw a good buc @140 B & C enter and leave in one corner of a bean field. He asked his guide if he could move a stand to that area. The guide responded that he had no spare stands. He was in ( a lock on ) to which the quide said he was too busy. Rick was there when I left and stated he was going to stick it out since paid for the hunt and had already missed Thanksgiving for this. Scott was correct in his observations that there were few repeat clients in camp. Out of 21 hunters in the camp there were no repeated' hunters. Save for two Texas hunter who had been given a reduced rate hunt from October due to their bad hunt then. My personal views were that some of the guides cared as to their clients hunting, but there was little they could do considering the conditions they were allowed to operate in. Also, at no time from day one, did Stacy introduce herself or make any attempt to socialize or interact with his clients. Nor did he express concern for client success. The impression I got (along with many other in camp that week) was that he did not care if we had a good hunt or not as the money had been paid and he had other projects on his mind. These observations were not merely mine but shared by the majority of hunters who gather nightly in the dining area. This was not a happy group of hunters. These hunters were from various backgrounds, locations and had various hunting experiences ranging from novices to highly experienced hunters. When a group of hunters (who do not know each other) nightly complain about an outfitter and leave a hunt early that they have paid for, speaks far more loudly than Stacy's comments to Scott's hunt report stating that his "report is simply not true and bordering on the absurd". After returning from the hunt in question, I contacted a certain 'major' booking agent whom I had booked hunts with in the past, as he was advertising hunts with Hadley Creek. After notifing him of the problems we encountered he replied via e-mail thaat, and I quote, "after hearing numerous reports like yours, we immediately lost interest in this outfit". Absurd ? What's absurd is Hadley Creek Outfitters.
Highlights of Hunt: Leaving, alongside others in camp who also recognized a waste of time and money when they saw it.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? No
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Robert Howell
Contact Information: Tel. 254-897-5779 - 110 Hillcrest Dr. Burleson, Texas 76028 E-mail: rhowell1@txu.com
Hunting Experience: Africa, Canada, USA, Mexico, South America
Physical Condition: Good


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
I may have rambled on my rebuttal to Stacy Wards comments on the hunt report #4623. However, I feel it was needed to properly demonstrate the problems with this outfit and to inform others.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4623 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 19, 2004 to November 21, 2004
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area: Pike County


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any): A new one each day.
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: I believe the area has been overhunted.
Game Condition Comments: Lots of does, very few mature bucks. See comments.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Fair Guide/PH Ability:
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Fair Trophy Care:
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $2800
Trophy Fees: If under 125 gross points. Amount: $500
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $200
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: See comments.
Highlights of Hunt: Going to the sporting goods store in town.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? No
Why? See comments.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Scott Hebertson
Contact Information: Tel. 907-248-7275 - 9170 Jewel Lake Rd., Anchorage, AK 99502
Hunting Experience: Extensive - Four continents.
Physical Condition: Very good for age 52. I can walk and I am not afraid of heights.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
I recently went on a whitetail deer hunt in Pike County, Illinois, which I found, by reading about it in the Hunting Report. I hunted at Hadley Creek Outfitters and I discovered some information that I believe would interest your readers. We hunted in the first firearm season, during the rut, and dark of the moon. I did observe rutting behavior, the highlight was a small buck covering a doe. This should have been an ideal time to hunt trophy whitetail deer. Unfortunately, it was not a great hunting experience.

I believe the area does hold some nice deer, and in the past, the area may have been a great place to hunt. However, I think they have over hunted the deer population. I hunted during the muzzleloader season Nov 19-21, and I saw very few bucks. One day I saw 35 does and only one buck, a small 2 pointer. My partner did not even see a buck all day. We both hunted all day from our tree stands. A 1 to 35 buck to doe ratio is not good. The other two days I hunted, I saw a 1 to 8 buck to doe ratio. Even that is not good.

On the last day, I did see one mature buck, I judged to be about 140 points, but it was out of range of my muzzleloader, and I only saw him for a few seconds. The rest of the time, I saw only very young bucks, if I saw any at all. Neither one of us collected a buck, nor did we ever have a chance at a mature one. The buck to doe ratio is way out of proportion, and I know why. They are putting too many hunters in the field.

When I was there, we had 17 hunters in the camp I was in, and two other cabins with thirteen other hunters. Therefore, they had thirty hunters for a three-day season, with more hunters coming in for the next hunt. I cannot give you the exact number of hunters they put in the field for the year, because they would not tell me, how many hunters they had on the property for one season. I asked several of the guides and the camp manager, and they all looked sheepish and told me they did not know. They were very proud to tell me they had taken some great bucks for the season. I believe the number they said had been taken was about 78. This sounds great until you realize that if they put 30 hunters in the field, every three to four days, by the end of the season, from Oct 1 to Jan 13, this can be close to 900 hunters. I do not know exactly how many they had in the field, because they would not tell me. Obviously, they were hiding that number, that is a lot of pressure on a deer herd, even if they are mainly bow hunting.

They claim to have over 18,000 acres of land to hunt, but if they put hundred of hunters in the field, then it is not enough to support a trophy deer population. By my math, with the few figures I could get from the company, each hunter has an area of 20 acres to hunt during the season. I started to figure this out, when I realized every tree stand they put my partner and me in, overlooked a fence on a bordering property. We were hunting tree stands that we hoped deer would come over the fence into our hunting area. The only mature buck I saw did cross the fence. But too far away to shoot.

The second odd thing about this operation was they claimed to have an 80% rebooking rate. In the camp I was in, only one hunter had been there before. He finally shot a deer of about 120 points after hunting for three years. He told me this was the first mature buck he had in range after three seasons.

The third unique feature of this camp is a special $500 fee they charge for any buck under 125 gross points. I thought this is a good idea, because it will stop hunters from shooting younger bucks and let them become trophy deer. Of the 5 bucks taken during my hunt, only one was over 125 points, and that buck gross score about 140. So where were all the trophy bucks?

The weirdest thing about this camp was the practice of asking the hunters to invest in the camp. Something like a time-share, or silent partner. I never understood why I wanted to invest in the camp, but they approached me several times to be a partner. They seemed disappointed when I said no.

In addition, on the very first night, even before I had gone hunting, they offered me a job as a guide for the next year. This was very strange to me. Maybe this is how they keep their rebooking at a claimed 80%. Bring last year's hunters back as guides, by appealing to their egos. Never the less, every hunter I had talked to during my hunt, said, :I am not coming back".

I have to say this is the strangest hunting operation I have ever seen, and I have hunted a lot, on four continents, Mexico, Canada, and all over the United States. I would not recommend this operation to anyone, unless they are on a very tight budget. At a cost of $2,800 for three days, it is not super cheap, but not expensive.

The facilities are new buildings and built very nice, but you have to sleep bunkhouse style. I hate sleeping with a lot of snoring men. One of the things I asked about, before I booked this trip, was I did not want to share a room with a group of strangers. Many years ago, someone stole all my cash, which was the last time I slept bunkhouse style.

Stacey, the owner, told me he had several rooms that only slept two, and he assured me, my partner and I would have one. I even reminded him of his promise, before I left on the hunt. When I got to camp, at the time they told me to arrive, I found those rooms had already been given out, and I was to share a room with several other men. I had the pleasure to sleep next to men who could chip porcelain at fifty feet with their snoring. I asked about the sleeping arrangements before booking the hunt. I would not have booked it, if he had not assured me, I would have a private room for my hunting partner and me. I ended up sleeping in the living room couch to get away from the noise. Another hunter slept on another couch, because he could not sleep in his bunk either.

I did not ask for a refund, and I am not going to ask for one, but I do think there are problems with this hunt. I thought your readers should know. This is a one star hunt at its best. I would not recommend it for any of your readers. This is the first negative report I have ever submitted to you.

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Date: February 7, 2005 To: The Hunting Report From: Stacey Ward of Hadley Creek Outfitters

I would like to respond to the negative letter your received from Scott Hebertson.

First I would like to apologize for not putting him in a room for only two. This could have been easily solved and I could have moved him if this had been brought up at the time. We are all human and a mistake was made. We have rooms that hold at the most at one time of 4 no more. I'm not really sure how to stop the world from snoring, but his suggestions on this topic are welcome.

The remainder of his report is simply not true and borders on the absurd. I regret we have a disappointed hunter.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4709 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 19, 2004 to November 21, 2004
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area: Pike County


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any): Multiple
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: Never saw a decent buck, too many hunters on amount of land, plus unregulated hunting around farms that are leased.
Game Condition Comments: The deer appeared healthy with plenty of feed.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Good Guide/PH Ability: Fair
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Good
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Good
Name of Airline: Airline Service: Good
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $2800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Travel expenses and meals. Amount: $250
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: The camp was the nicest I have stayed in with excellent meals. However we were in a camp with 21 hunters and only one nice 8-pointer was shot during the gun season. The other two camps with as many hunters did not have very good success. I saw only one marginal 8-pointer during the entire hunt. Each two person group was given a different farm to hunt each day. The guides were to check in on us at noon each day. Some did others didn't nor did they seem to be interested. Each day you rotated to a farm that another group had just hunted. The lands around the farms were heavily hunted and sounded like a war zone. Obviously any deer on that particular farm that wandered off were shot immediately. The amount of acreage based for the number of hunters booked could not have supported every client taking a 140-plus buck. We actually figure that about that the same 100-150 acres was basically continually hunted every day of all the seasons.
Highlights of Hunt: Excellent accomodations and food.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? No
Why? Although some very big deer are shot each year, statistically your chances of being one of them are slim.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: John Somple
Contact Information: Tel. 330-666-9429 - PO Box 806, Bath, OH 44210 E-mail: somple@adelphia.net
Hunting Experience: North America and Africa.
Physical Condition: Good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4951 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 19, 2004 to November 21, 2004
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area: Pike County


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: Few bucks - No trophies seen.
Game Condition Comments: Lot's of does seen over three days.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Fair Guide/PH Ability: Poor
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Good
Quality of Food: Good Trophy Care: Poor
Name of Airline: Alaska Airlines Airline Service: Fair
Airline Comments: Significant hassle in meeting weight guidelines both ways - two bags just over 50 lbs. and agent wanted more money, finally rearranged to save extra charges.


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $2800
Trophy Fees: Amount: $2800
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $200
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: #1 complaint - guides allowed to hunt after placing clients on stand, encouraging questionable stand assignments. #1 disappointment - only 1 buck (small) seen.
Highlights of Hunt: Fortunately there was a bird hunting preserve in the area that I had found independently. My partner and I enjoyed excellent hunting there.
Equipment Recommendations: Good binoculars, scope on weapon.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? No
Why? #1. While cost is moderate for this type of hunt, the prospects of success I believe are very overstated. #2. The concept of a "guide" here is questionable - stand locator and vehicle area transporter would be more accurate. This would be an excellent rea for turkey hunting - many birds seen while on stand.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Ben Iris
Contact Information: Tel. 907-696-2857 - 14409 Don Circle, Eagle River, AK. 99577 E-mail: bwiris@yahoo.com
Hunting Experience: Considerable . Have taken moose, caribou, dall sheep and both black and grizzly bears in Alaska. Also, many mule deer/ antelope/ elk in Colorado. I have done guided hunts in Alaska and Mexico.
Physical Condition: Better than average. Condition a non-issue on this hunt, other than tolerance of considerable heights on many tree stands.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Dinners were well prepared, but breakfast were minimal and lunches just make-your-own sandwich for the field affair. Recommend anyone considering this hunt also read hunt report #4623 for an excellent description of hunt details to expect. In my opinion, the observations by Mr. Hebertson were well expressed and represent what Hadley Creek Outfitters offers. Aside - suggest report from have "not appplicable" option for ratings.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 3343 Weapon Used: Shotgun How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 1, 2001 to May 3, 2003
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area:


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: - Trophy Size: See comments.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: See comments


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Guide/PH Ability:
Condition of Camp: Condition of Equipment:
Quality of Food: Trophy Care:
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: See comments. Amount: $0
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt:
Highlights of Hunt: See comments.
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why? See comments.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Steve Hochman
Contact Information: PO Box 123, Halcottsville, NY 12438
Hunting Experience:
Physical Condition:


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
"For years I have been trying to connect with a monster whitetail deer. I've hunted most of Canada and the US, but never saw Mr. Big. Yes, there were some big ones, but not THE big one. Then, about a year ago, I started to read about the fantastic deer being harvested in Illinois, specifically Adams and Pike counties in the southern part of the state. I had also heard that the Quality Deer Management Association (Tel. 800-209-3337. Web site: www.qdma.com) was working on a map showing the states and counties where Boone & Crockett and Pope & Young entries recorded during the past 10 years were taken. This color-coded map has been completed and is available for $9.95, plus shipping and handling. The results are nothing short of shocking. If you think that Texas is No. 1, think again. The top 10 states are Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, Ohio, Minnesota, Texas and Indiana. Start to scratch the surface of the data and you'll find that Adams, Pike, Fulton and McHenry counties in Illinois are four of the five top producing counties nationwide.

"I had read about Stacy Ward's operation in a past issue of The Hunting Report and decided to give him a call. Ward is a fulltime, third-generation farmer who owns and/or leases more than 13,000 acres of the best land in Pike and Adams counties. Not only does his land produce large crops of corn and soybeans, but also monster whitetails. Large tracts of land are left as food plots, and the buck-to-doe ratio is one-to-one. Hunters are discouraged from harvesting bucks less than 130 B & C. The desired buck is four to five years old, sporting a rack of 135-plus.

"To achieve this objective, Ward has strategically placed over 500 tree stands, tower blinds and ground blinds overlooking the best food plots and known trails. With only 20 hunters spread out among all the properties at any one time, each of his clients has about 25 spots to choose from.

"Most of Ward's clients return every year, so I was lucky to get a cancellation hunt. Ward placed me in a well-constructed ground blind overlooking a plot of standing corn on opening day of the gun season. Within 30 minutes of daybreak, I had a 130 B & C buck walking directly to me. His antlers were wide, but he was no older than 2-1/2, so I decided to let him go. It was just too early into the hunt. That day, I saw more monster bucks than I have seen in my entire 40 years of hunting.

"On the second day I was hunting over a green food plot. At about 9:30 that morning a buck came out of the woods to feed. The second I saw him I knew that he was the one. The excitement caused my heart to leave my chest and my hands to shake as if I had St. Vitus' dance. I begged Nimrod and all the other gods of the hunt for 10 seconds of control. The crosshairs were in position, and the 12 gauge shouted its command. The buck stood there without moving. Just as I muttered all kinds of curses and readied for another shot, his legs turned into columns of wobbling jello. He took five small steps and went down for the final count. The Winchester slug had taken out his entire heart. He dressed out at 235 pounds, and at 4-1/2 years old, his rack green-scored 197 B & C...."

When we called Ward to get the latest on possible openings, he told us he is donating a hunt to the Western and Central New York chapter of Safari Club International for their annual auction on March 9, 2002. He will be there to meet with attending hunters. If you're interested in bidding on the hunt, contact chapter president Stan Gowrin at 716-686-7043 (daytime) or 716-648-6265 (evenings). This hunt is among those chapter offerings that have been listed as a service to chapters and to subscribers on our own web site (www.huntingreport.com) under "What's New."

Ward's archery hunts are regularly priced from $1,250 to $2,500, depending on whether you hunt the early season, late season or the rut. His shotgun/muzzleloader hunts go for $2,500. (Rifle hunting is prohibited in Illinois.) Prices include one buck of any size and one doe (if you draw the permit), all meals, lodging and guides. Clients can fly into St. Louis, Missouri, and pay $53 for ground transportation to Ward's ranch in Barry, Illionis, about a two-hour drive. Be aware that all of these hunts require a draw permit. Booked clients should get in touch with Ward early for instruction on how to apply. You will also need to get a nonresident hunting license ($28.75 for five days) and a habitat stamp ($5.50).

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Hadley Creek Outfitters Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 2013 Weapon Used: Bow How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 11, 2000 to November 17, 2000
Place of Hunt: United States - Illinois
Hunt Area: Pike County 2


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Hadley Creek Outfitters. Pt 2; Box 22 A; Barry; IL; 62312-9802; Tel. 217-335-3804; Email: hadleycr@adams.net; Web www.hadleycreek.com
Personal Guide (if any): Stacey Ward
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Deer, Whitetail - Availability: I saw good to excellent deer, maybe 160 B & C class. Other hunters reported seeing bigger bucks. We had a full moon and high wind all but one day of the hunt.
Game Condition Comments: There were some very good bucks seen but none in bow range.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Good Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Good Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care:
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $1550
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $120
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $150
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: Full moon and high winds.
Highlights of Hunt: I saw some good bucks but they were out of range.
Equipment Recommendations: Bring your own tree climber if you have one. They have lots of stands but this give you more flexibility.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Ken Gerg
Contact Information: Tel. 660-486-1691 - PO Box 247, Emporium, PA 15834
Hunting Experience: I have been on 80 to 90 hunts.
Physical Condition: Good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Editor Note: Intrigued that an outfitter in Illinois could provide a hunt this good, we called Hadley Creek Outfitters owner Stacey Ward for more details on his operation. He says he has been in operation for five years now and controls a total of 8,000 acres of private land, about three quarters of which is rolling hills, timber and creek bottoms, with farm fields making up the other quarter. He said at press time his hunters had taken a total of 57 trophy bucks this year



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