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Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 8992 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 12, 2012 to November 2, 2012
Place of Hunt: United States - California
Hunt Area: Cambria (central coast)


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Don Anderson; Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service. 13600 Old Morro Road; Atascadero; CA; 93422; Tel. 805-466-3240; Email: andersontaxidermy@sbcglobal.net; Web www.thehuntpro.com
Personal Guide (if any): Don Anderson
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Sheep, Aoudad - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 127 6/8 -- SCI Bronze
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Great experience on the beautiful California coast.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: N/A Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: N/A Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $3750
Trophy Fees: incl Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: CA Hunting License Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: None
Highlights of Hunt: Seeing the herd of over 50 aoudad bedded on the hillside. Picking out the ram to take, and then stalking him most of the day!
Equipment Recommendations: None other than good boots, optics and rifle.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? yes
Why? It is a unique experience that cannot be done elsewhere.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Scott Swasey
Contact Information: Tel. 925-964-9040 - 1005 Horizon Ct. | Danville | CA | USA | 94506 E-mail: scott.swasey@sbcglobal.net
Hunting Experience: Fairly extensive.
Physical Condition: Averge for my age.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
I had wanted to do an Aoudad hunt and saw that Don had very limited availability in California (where I live). I booked a year in advance and thoroughly enjoyed the hunt. Don specializes in guided sheep hunts, and the Aoudad is the "entry level" -- but no less fun.

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 9001 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: October 31, 2009 to November 1, 2009
Place of Hunt: United States - California
Hunt Area: Cambria


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Don Anderson; Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service. 13600 Old Morro Road; Atascadero; CA; 93422; Tel. 805-466-3240; Email: andersontaxidermy@sbcglobal.net; Web www.thehuntpro.com
Personal Guide (if any):
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken:
Game Sought But Not Taken: Sheep, Aoudad - Availability: See attached letter
Game Condition Comments:


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: N/A Guide/PH Ability: Good
Condition of Camp: N/A Condition of Equipment: Good
Quality of Food: N/A Trophy Care: N/A
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments: Drove truck, stayed in motels and ate at restaurants at my expense


COSTS
Hunting Fees: Amount: $1000
Trophy Fees: Amount: $2500
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: motel and restaurant Amount: $500
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: See letter
Highlights of Hunt: Nope
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? no
Why? See letter


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Roger L. Gregg
Contact Information: 628 Crane Ave., Turlock, CA 95380 E-mail: rogerlgregg@att.net
Hunting Experience: Worldwide Dues
Physical Condition: Excellent for my age


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? yes Notified Personal Guide? yes Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide? yes
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought? In my letter to him, I asked for partial refund.


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL
Attached letter:

I had booked the hunt with Anderson for sheep for two days with the understanding that I could continue for $200/day. The original price was $2500 with a $1000 non-refundable deposit and $1500 more when the sheep was taken. After the deposit was made, I was informed he was going to raise the price to $3500 for the hunt and if I didn't want to pay that I could cancel and get my $100 back because he had a lengthy waiting list and he had only two permits. I elected to go anyway. No lodging or meals other than lunch was provided so the hunt actually cost $500 more for a total of $4000.

We basically hunted one herd of about 200 sheep or 400 eyes and were unsuccessful on numerous stalks. On the last evening I tried a running shot at a reasonable ram. I had sworn off the practice years ago so it was my mistake. I momentarily didn't see the result due to the recoil, but Anderson said I hit it and it was limping. I believe I would have seen him fall if I had hit a leg. He had me get on a vantage point while he scouted for the "wounded" ram. He returned and said he saw it limping and found, in his words, two "pin-head sized" drops of blood. It was getting dark so we left. I asked him what happens now and he said I was done because I had wounded and lost the sheep. I asked about going the next day and he said he thought his wife had things for him to do. After a very quiet trip back to town he told me we could hunt the following day but only for that sheep. There was no blood trail and I was convinced this ram was not wounded and could have even run off the ranch, the boundary being so very nearby. On the way out from the ranch we stopped and talked to the owner and I clearly heard Anderson tell the owner I had a shot and missed. I have tried to be unbiased and honest, possibly too much so, about the foregoing, but I am unhappy with the results for the following reasons:

1) That the price was raised after I had booked it.

2) The odds were not conducive to continuing the hunt for one animal that was not hurt and the hunter/guide relationship had become quite strained.

3) There is the possibility my hunt was sold again since the owner thinks I didn't take an animal.

Enclosed is a copy of the letter I sent to Anderson and a copy of the "Hunting Report" (Editor's Note: Article ID 1357 main article database, published in 2004) wherein he stated he hunted until a ram was taken or extended the hunt for $200/day.

Very truly yours,
Roger L. Gregg

P.S. I have been on over 100 guided hunts, 40 plus of which have been for sheep or goats. I have come home without a trophy before, but have rarely had a reason for complaint. However, I feel this hunt merits a complaint.

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Letter from Mr. Gregg to Mr. Anderson, 11/5/2009:

Don,

I think I know the reason you were so unwilling to have me hunt the extra day and would limit me to the one sheep. You told the owner when we were leaving the ranch that I had missed a sheep. Since you were limited to two sheep permits, you will probably sell another hunt using my permit.

If I'm wrong, I apologize, but if I am correct this action would be very unethical and dishonest.

Roger

P.S. -- I am thinking of filing a report on my hunt with the "Hunting Report." I will wait until 12/5/09 to give you a chance to think over whether or not you should reimburse me part of my hunt fee.

Letter from Mr. Anderson to Mr. Gregg, 11/14/2009:

Dear Roger,

This letter is to respond to your letter dated November 5, 2009 requesting a direct reply no later than December 15, 2009. I apologize for the delay, however having my 88-year-old mother hospitalized over Thanksgiving and locating a Board and Care facility with an opening has delayed my responding sooner.

I am only taking two sheep hunters this season, one of them being you. Had you listened more carefully, you would have heard me state to the land manager that "you had shot a sheep and that we would be coming back the next day to look for it." In the field at the time you shot this sheep, I had told you it had broken a leg. In our ensuing telephone conversation, it was agreed that I had fulfilled all conditions that were the terms of this hunt. Those terms being: the hunt consisted of two (2) days of hunting, lunch provided in the field, all transportation to and from your lodging to the field on those days. The cost of the hunt is $3500.00. Should you not take, wound, lose, or kill a sheep in that time frame, then additional days would be an option to the hunter to continue hunting, at an additional daily rate of $250.00/day. Please note that you have a copy of a Hunting Report that dates back to September 2004. The terms have changed since that time and I made them clear in our earlier phone conversations before your initial deposit to book was received. The cost of the terms in 2004 is outdated. New terms were in effect since the 2008 season. These changes were made due to changes in the original agreement made with the prior landowner, since deceased, and new terms under current ownership and management. I no longer charge a trophy fee for this hunt, it is a flat rate. The September 2004 article also states, "Should a hunter be unsuccessful due to missing or passing up animals, he will be permitted to return for a fee of $200.00/day." You did shoot and wound an animal. It was your decision to shoot at the animal. I have no control over your shooting ability. Since this animal was wounded, it was only right to look for the wounded sheep, not another sheep, which is what you wanted to do. I gave you the option of coming back and looking for the wounded sheep. You did not want to look for the wounded sheep, but wanted to hunt for another sheep. I consider this unethical. The decision to return and continue the hunt for your wounded sheep the next day was on the table and it was your ultimate decision to return to do so or not, you did not.

As far as your sending a report to The Hunting Report, I welcome you to do so. Know that I will respond to it and in the rebuttal state the facts and then the hunting community can decide who provides a hunt with fair hunting practices or who is unethical.

The structure of the package between the 2004 article in the Hunting Report has changed significantly since Mel Topance wrote the article and Mike Borel took his sheep. You were never quoted 2004 terms for your 2009 hunt and it is not fair or reasonable for you to consider it would be. As a person in business I have to review the costs of operations as does anyone running a business in these times. I am sure you would agree with me when I say things have changed, including the cost to do business in the state of California since 2004. Since 2004 the terms and the costs of being able to provide this hunt have changed. Therefore, terms have been restructured to support these increased costs of keeping this hunt available for any hunter. Suffice it to say the pricing structure of this hunt had been adjusted since the article from The Hunting Report by Mel Topance which ran in the September 2004 issue, which you refer to and have provided with your letter.

Roger, you were provided two full days of hunting, transportation to and from your motel in Paso Robles along with provisions for lunch, water and soft drinks were provided for those two days. You wounded an animal on the second day, at which time the options were provided to continue to hunt for it, not ignore it and try for a second animal. The option was to continue to hunt and seek out the individual you had wounded. You stated you wanted to hunt for another animal and not look for the wounded animal, which was not an option to the existing hunt.

1. The option to continue hunting for the wounded animal was offered.

2. Additional days were open and available to you. The next day was available, to add on at the rate of $250.00/day, to continue the hunt.

You stated you wanted to hunt for another animal and not look for the wounded animal, which was not an option to the existing hunt.

I hope this resolves any misunderstanding.

Sincerely,
Don Anderson

Letter from Don Anderson to Editor Barbara Crown, 03/22/12:

Dear Barbara,

Thank you for bringing the matter to my attention, the submitted derogatory complaint of Mr. Gregg against me and services provided. I recall both the hunt and the hunter. I will provide my response so a fair assessment is available to you, The Hunting Report, and subscribers so that anyone may make a determination as to the validity of the statements made by Mr. Gregg. Should you print the complaint as so submitted, I would request that you make my response available in its entirety, within the same issue to allow any of your subscribers the benefit of reading my response at the same time and allow others to come to their own conclusions on the abilities of the services I provide as a guide who provides fair and reasonable services to all of his hunters.

This is my response to the complaint submitted by Mr. Gregg provided by The Hunting Report today, March 22, 2012.

The attached article, written by Mel Topance, was released and reviewed by subscribers of The Hunting Report -- September 2004. The costs associated were provided at the time, the sum total of $2,500.00, remember this is 2004. No accommodations are provided or meals other than lunch, snacks, water, or soft drinks offered in the field. The area hunted is Cambria, CA, not Paso Robles as stated in the report submitted by Mr. Gregg. If I recall correctly, he and his wife were staying in lodgings in Paso Robles, CA at the time. I pick up my hunters at their lodgings, I do not stipulate a specific location, that is up to the hunter. Many may stay in Paso Robles, as they have family interested in wine tasting, some find lodging closer to the hunting area in Cambria, CA. I will state that if you stay in Paso Robles, then one has to be prepared to get up earlier to drive the distance to the hunting area and for the record one should know that it takes the better part of an hour to drive from Paso Robles to Cambria and access the ranch being hunted.

Attached please find a copy of the hunting contract signed by Roger Gregg, dated October 31, 2009. Hunt was conducted on a Saturday and Sunday. Hunting is not limited to weekends.

This hunt was taken five (5) years after the article Mr. Gregg uses to support his value of the cost of the hunt as stated in the article in 2004 and the actual cost of the hunt in 2009. By his letterhead, Mr. Gregg is a Civil Engineer and Surveyor. I wonder if in that amount of time, his service rate has increased or costs of operations have increased. I know mine have and continue to rise, look at the cost of fuel from then to today.

I don't know of anyone in business that has not experienced an increase in prices for product or services offered after such an extended period of time. I know I cannot compete in business by offering five-year-old pricing. Fees associated with the cost of this hunt are driven by Landowner, and Supply & Demand. Due to the limited number of animals allowed to be taken from the herd speaks for itself. I will also provide later the current price for this hunt on the same ranch along with a separate property offered today for the 2012 hunting season. Neither of these ranch owners wants to decimate or eradicate their population of wildlife, nor do I. By limiting the number of animals taken from these herds, I continue to offer a higher quality trophy animal to the hunter.

Hunters who know me and hunt with me can further attest to the quality of animals taken on this same hunt today. I hunt private and exclusive to me. While I have hunted this same property for approximately 20 years, I have other properties that would not have been offered to me if it were not for my integrity and ethical practices. See attached outline of Aoudad Hunt #1 or #2 for 2012. Hunt #2 is the ranch on which Mr. Gregg hunted in 2009.

The hunter, Mr. Gregg, hunted for two (2) days, passing on several rams until the end of the second day when he shot and wounded his ram, hitting it in the upper right shoulder, breaking the animal's leg. The ram was dragging his leg as he went over the top of the ridge. The hunter's bi-pod broke when he fired the shot and he was offered shooting sticks to use which he refused, wanting to spend precious time to try to make repairs to his equipment while the ram was moving off. We followed the ram and when we eventually reached the top of the ridge, tracking the wounded ram, I found blood and bone and pointed it out to the hunter. As I continued to track the wounded ram, the hunter fell behind. I would attribute this to his age and the rugged nature of the terrain. The hunter stopped following me, I presumed due to his frustration and inability to stay on course, being winded. I continued to track the ram, locating it 300 yards standing with a broken shoulder. I returned to the hunter, letting him know the location and distance to reach his animal. Mr. Gregg stated he did not want to pursue the animal due to the lateness of the day and low light. At that point, I told the hunter we would return the following morning to pursue his wounded ram. The hunter then stated he did not believe that the animal was wounded sufficiently to pursue.

I stated that should he continue to hunt an additional day, that we would not be in pursuit of any other ram than the ram the hunter had shot and already wounded. It was the hunter's choice to return the next day to pursue that wounded ram or end the hunt. He refused to return to the field the next morning to do so. He did not want to incur additional motel costs or pay the added daily fee to extend his hunting time.

Mr. Gregg did write to me afterward, his letter dated November 9, 2009.  I will attach a copy of the same to support the timeline. Please see the Post Script or PS contained at the end of this letter.

I have also attached a copy of my reply directed to Mr. Gregg. My letter dated November 14, 2009 is a timely response and proof of service received. I sent the letter Certified Mail as well, under Plain Cover, should he refuse to sign the Return Receipt, proof of his stated time frame for a response. Please note the receipt of the letter was not accepted or received until December 17, 2009 and signed by an agent, not the addressee. The letter sent under Plain Cover was never returned and it is presumed to be received very timely to the date mailed.

Mr. Gregg is beating a dead horse by casting aspersions against me at this late date in 2009. It is 2012 and I am only now being made aware of the complaint filed when? He was ill-equipped and in poor shape. He shot and wounded an animal and didn't want to try to complete the hunt of a wounded animal. Unfortunately, I do not carry a weapon when hunting these animals as backup. I do not question the ability of a hunter who books a hunt for a sheep, nor do I shoot their animal for them. It is the hunter's choice to pick his animal and pull the trigger and complete the hunt by tracking and dispatching the wounded animal. It is not a canned hunt. The terrain is rugged and steep in the areas these sheep reside and my hunters are made aware of the type of terrain they will be exposed to. Their part is to be capable of handling these conditions and have good equipment, sighted in before the hunt and completing the process. I have had children on their first hunt and hunters in their 80s who have hunted successfully on the same hunt. It is not easy and while we may access the area hunted via four-wheel drive vehicle, it is considered a "spot and stalk" and if the hunter is in decent shape, the opportunity to take a sheep is provided. I can no sooner guarantee a successful hunt to anyone, I don't know if they can hit the target or their personal abilities to cover ground to complete a fouled shot.

Aoudad and other sheep are unlike anything else. They all have keen eyesight and once spooked, they run. These sheep, once spooked, will run, and they do not look back and stand waiting for another shot to come at them. The fact is that Mr. Gregg made his choices, took the shot, wounded the animal, and did not complete his hunt when he was provided the opportunity to do so.

At the time of Mr. Gregg taking his hunt, the landowner contract only allocated two animals per year to be taken. I had already guided a hunter on this property before Mr. Gregg. His animal was the second allowed to be taken that season. Something I will add at this point, for those knowledgeable of hunting Aoudad here in California, is that they are a non-indigenous species and have no set season by California Department of Fish & Game. The timeline that I choose to offer this hunt is generally October and November. The reason is first and foremost, the herd size increases due to the rut with bachelor rams that tend to live separately the rest of the year, move back in to the main body at the time the rut takes place. Secondly, the cooler season offers better quality cape for those hunters who may want to have their animal mounted. The next season available to hunt this herd was the following October - November 2010.

Who is the ethical person here, the guide wanting to pursue and dispatch a wounded animal, or a hunter who wants to leave a wounded animal in the field to look for another one?

Sincerely,
Don Anderson

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 4438 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: November 4, 2004 to November 5, 2004
Place of Hunt: United States - California
Hunt Area: Central Coast


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Don Anderson; Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service. 13600 Old Morro Road; Atascadero; CA; 93422; Tel. 805-466-3240; Email: andersontaxidermy@sbcglobal.net; Web www.thehuntpro.com
Personal Guide (if any): Don Anderson
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Sheep, Aoudad - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: 28 1/2 L 11 3/4" bases.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: Beautiful area. Game were wild and seemed to be thriving.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: $1,000. Amount: $1000
Trophy Fees: $1,500. Amount: $1500
Permits/Licenses: 0 Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Hotel. Amount: $60
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: None.
Highlights of Hunt: Spotting rams at 500 yards in beautiful country, stalking to 125 yard (ravine) and stuyding 2 largest rams.
Equipment Recommendations: None.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why?


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Mike Borel
Contact Information: Tel. 925-937-4180 - 272 Castle Crest Rd., Alamo, CA 94507 E-mail: mikenorel@borelconsulting.com
Hunting Experience: Extensive.
Physical Condition: Excellent.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL

Subscriber-Written Trip Report On Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service Hunts

Below is one sample of such a Report which is made available to you FREE of Charge.

DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT
Report ID: 308 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: March 5, 1998 to March 5, 1998
Place of Hunt: United States - California
Hunt Area: Cambria, near Hearst Castle, California.


OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS
Outfitter (or safari company): Don Anderson; Anderson Taxidermy and Guide Service. 13600 Old Morro Road; Atascadero; CA; 93422; Tel. 805-466-3240; Email: andersontaxidermy@sbcglobal.net; Web www.thehuntpro.com
Personal Guide (if any): Don Anderson
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:


GAME DESCRIPTION
Major Game Animals Taken: Sheep, Aoudad - Availability: Abundant - Trophy Size: Excellent, took 29 inch aoudad with beautiful chaps and mane.
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments: The herds were healthy and had many young rams.


SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Excellent Guide/PH Ability: Excellent
Condition of Camp: Excellent Condition of Equipment: Excellent
Quality of Food: Excellent Trophy Care: Excellent
Name of Airline: Airline Service:
Airline Comments:


COSTS
Hunting Fees: $125 per day for one day Amount: $125
Trophy Fees: Amount: $1875
Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Amount: $0
Total: $0


SUMMARY REMARKS
Problems of Hunt: Sitting behind a desk and then trying to walk up hills.
Highlights of Hunt: Watching 32 inch aoudad with his harem. Spotting a herd of tahr. Don guides extensively in Alaska for brown bear and dall sheep.
Equipment Recommendations: Good boots.
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? Yes
Why? This is a tremendous hunt for Southern Californians. It is a short drive, great game, beautiful ranches and the chance to visit Hearst Castle.


HUNTER INFORMATION
Hunter Name: Ray Liden
Contact Information: Tel. 818-991-8871 - 1991 Calavaras Drive, Camarillo, CA 93010
Hunting Experience: Extensive experience.
Physical Condition: Good.


IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent?
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide?
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought?


ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL



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