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Report ID: 10285 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided
Date of Hunt: September 13, 2015 to September 19, 2015
Place of Hunt: Canada - Newfoundland
Hunt Area:

Outfitter (or safari company): Newfoundland Wilderness Outfitters (New). 40 Coronation St.; Grand Falls-Windsor; NL; A2B 1E2; Tel. 1.814.387.6660; Email:; Web
Personal Guide (if any): Dylan Steffan
Booking Agent (if any):
Trip Arrangements
(if self-guided):
License Required:

Major Game Animals Taken: Caribou, Woodland - Availability: Scarce - Trophy Size: B grade quality
Game Sought But Not Taken:
Game Condition Comments:

SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor)
Quality of Outfit: Poor Guide/PH Ability: Poor
Condition of Camp: N/A Condition of Equipment: N/A
Quality of Food: N/A Trophy Care: Poor
Name of Airline: Airline Service: N/A
Airline Comments:

Hunting Fees: Amount: $5050
Trophy Fees: Amount: $0
Permits/Licenses: Caribou license Amount: $450
Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0
Charter Airfares: Amount: $0
Other Costs: Sales Tax Amount: $4
Total: $0

Problems of Hunt: This was supposed to be a spot-and-stalk hunt and was a road hunt instead. Saw one caribou from the road. No opportunity to look over other animals. Hide was ruined due to improper handling.
Highlights of Hunt:
Equipment Recommendations:
Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? no
Why? Not enough game seen. Road hunt, not a spot-and-stalk hunt.

Hunter Name: Edward Batten, Jr.
Contact Information: Tel. 954-648-5369 - 241 NW 218 Terrace, Pembroke Pines, FL United States, 33029 E-mail:
Hunting Experience:
Physical Condition:

IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt)
Notified Outfitter? yes Notified Personal Guide? yes Notified Booking Agent? no
Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide? no
If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought? The guide and outfitter told me, "Too bad."

I consider myself to be an experienced hunter for over 25 years of hunting bear, moose, deer, grouse and other small game from Alaska and around the USA. This year I was looking around in Canada and found Tom at/in Newfoundland Wilderness Outfitters.

Tom's web page wasn't very clear about who they were, so I called and told Tom in November 2014 and advised Tom of what kind of experience I was looking for and that I was looking for spotting and stalking of woodland caribou and bear. Tom assured me that was the only way they hunted! I was also advised they had hunting blinds in place.

I asked Tom what if I get my caribou early what is there to hunt? Tom advised me of bear, small game, rabbit, and grouse. I also asked about the hunting license for each type of game I wanted to hunt. I was advised I could get all that there at the camp.

So in January 2015 I sent Newfoundland Wilderness Outfitters my 1st deposit for a 7 day hunt reserved for September 13-19, 2015. A few weeks later I sent my second check and when I called to see if they received my checks I was advised the mail wasn't very good. And again, when I told Tom about my hunting experience of moose in Maine, he-Tom assured me of a good experience at his lodge.

First off when I arrived at the meeting place Tom requested to meet up at 1pm, which I had to kill a few hours since I drove up with my two well behaved dogs from Florida, I was told to wait some more. They had to pick up another hunter low on oil then wait for them to show at Walmart then drive to a hotel to puck up another hunter.

Finally a few hours later we all are on our way to the Lodge and get to a horrible kidney shaker, major 40 mile potholed road that could only go 5-10 miles per hour on. Which they keep that way to deter other people from using the road, which doesn't work. By the time we got to the camp it was to late to hunt even if the paper work for the licenses were ready to pay and sign for which they weren't.

On the plus side the rooms were clean, the food was good and homemade, but I was very glad I had a lot of extra water in my vehicle when I found out the drinking water well was fed by a beaver stream.

So no hunting on the first day, but on the way to the camp we did see a couple of caribou but small game hunting, that I had previously asked about before making my reservation didn't open till 2/two day after I left.

Now it's Monday, we are finally getting to go out and the four wheel drive vehicle is not working properly, engine trouble, stop and start, stop and start, ready to shoot the engine and walk back about 11:30am.

After a good home cooked meal for lunch we loaded into the SUV, drove down the road, saw a caribou 250-300 yards away...Great...but no, the guide said wait, let me get closer in the SUV. The caribou had a "B" grade rack and I shot 2 times got my caribou. The guide got out walked about 100 feet down the road to my what I would call ROAD KILL not a hunt.

So basically I drove 5 days to get here, wait 1/2 a day for a guide to even get me to the camp, $5000 for room and board plus license ect for ROAD KILL!!! This was not what I specified or requested on those many long distance calls before I even made my reservations.

Then it got worse!!!

We dragged the caribou back to the SUV and when we got back to camp it started to rain. That's when I saw they only had skinning buck pole. No tarp, no cover, no canvas and the outdoor weather was still wet and warm. Nothing to protect the animals cape and no storage freezer, only a cooler.

Two days later, Thursday, they (someone from camp) were ready and able to take the meat to the butcher, which the butcher wouldn't cut some of the meat to my specifications. I wanted a portion ground up, how hard is that?? I had helped load up the rack and cape, which went into a wooden box, the meat in a cooler into the camps pickup truck and noticed everything in the cooler wasn't frozen so they had no proper facilities to properly care for my kill, and then more bad news...the fur was falling out and had blow flies due to hanging out in the rain overnight and not being dry before placing everything in the cooler, but everything was placed wet in the cooler at the lodge. As I said before...maybe if the weather was dry and a LOT cooler outside but it wasn't and there simply wasn't proper facilities at the Lodge to maintain my caribou cape, rack, or meat!!!

So when I asked hem about the condition of the cape all I got back was "sorry, too bad." As if to say...we got your money, you got your kill, to bad you lost your trophy. So now Im out over $5000 and a unfulfilled and promised hunting experience plus my caribou cape. Not including other costs.

I was advised they had a lot of wooded areas not clear cut. It was open field and mostly hunting in the Florida Everglades but in Newfoundland with the same warm weather.

Anyway, since I killed my quota I asked about the bear??? I was told about the bear that had been taken and the BAITED I spent another $500 for the license.

At the baited barrel I could tell it hadn't been baited in a long time due to all the maggots and we saw nothing for 6 or 7 hours in a tended blind.

On Friday I finally saw a bear cub and behind me I could hear another bear bellowing...basically saying don't go in there, stay away!!! How do I know this. Reference PB Guide Service. I have known Paul for years in Skowhegan, Maine 04976. Later I did find out the camp/lodge doesn't relocate the blinds or continually re-bait the area for better hunting. If this isn't done the animals know its a killing field and won't come and they warn each other to stay away.

I have assisted PB Guide services with bait and stands and have learned a lot of the years and Paul has been with PB Guide Services for 35-40 years.

As for my caribou, the camp wanted to remove the rack with a chain saw, the cape was ruined per my taxidermist Harold Porterfield, Old River road in Georgia and when I got home I finished carving and properly wrapping the meat.

E-mail from Dylan Steffan to Tim Jones, November 4, 2015:

Hello Tim,

Thanks for the letter from Ed Batten. I also attached a picture of Ed having a so called horrible time hunting with us in September. Ed was a great guy that did all the talking and no reading or listening which may have led to some of his difficulties with his hunt. All of our hunts are 5 day hunts from Monday through Friday as stated many times in our talks and paper work, the small game season didn't open until after Ed's hunt was over, Sunday is a non hunting day in Newfoundland in September. All hunter receive a list of equipment to bring which includeds 3, 150 quart coolers for meat of which he brought none. We have a 12 foot by 12 foot walk in cooler in camp that will chill meat and freezers for deboned meat and capes which are available to our hunters. We and all outfitters in Newfoundland lease only the non resident hunting rights to our areas and do not own or maintain the roads in our 650 square mile area. As to it being a road hunt Ed shot the first caribou he saw Monday afternoon. They spotted the caribou from the road he was under no pressure to shoot the animal but never hesitated to shoot a fine woodland caribou. The weather was very warm but as outfitters we don't control the weather or where the caribou roam. It seems that even a successful hunter like Ed is hard to please after he returns home . We have been in the outfitting business for 7 years and had very few problems especially with hunters who listen or read the directions they are provided.

Thank You,
Dylan Steffan, Newfoundland Wilderness Outfitters

Follow-up phone conversations, November 4 and 5:

In follow-up phone conversations both Dylan Steffan and Tom Sargent mentioned considerable problems with Battens dogs, including damage to the lodge.

Tom Sargents (Battens personal guide) account of the hunt differs markedly from Battens. Sargent tells us he spotted the caribou at a distance of about two miles, that he offered Batten the options of going after it on foot or driving closer, and that Batten chose to drive closer and shoot. I told him it was a good trophy, not a record-book animal and he made the decision to shoot.

Sargent also says that Battens cape was spoiled because he wouldnt allow us to do our job and prepare it properly for the drive back to Florida.

Phone conversation with Ed Batten November 5, 2015

In a re-rebuttal, Batten tells us that the dogs did damage a screen which he offered to fix. He also stands by his story that he was told to kill his caribou. Tom told me afterwards that if I hadnt killed this animal he wouldnt have known what to do with me.

As to the trophy care, Batten tells us, I saw the way they were handling other trophies, including cutting off the antlers with a chainsaw. After consulting by phone with my taxidermist, I did not want my trophy handled that way.

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